You are innocent, duh.. As I can't show any proper evidence.

I have the demo somewhere, just can't find it.

Since when are innocent people banned SLASH convicted?:p

Glorious, i belive you!

Glorious have never done one ban without being an reason, only one mistake he have made. And that was when he banned me cuz of a fakenicker that had cheated right before i joined the game and got banned!

Waah, i have seen you sometimes to though, you seemed supicous but after a while you played like **** after people called you a cheater. But don't make this discussion longer, wait and see what doggie will do about it, aint that good enough then it can be!

Whiskey wrote:But don't make this discussion longer, wait and see what doggie will do about it, aint that good enough then it can be!

That wont take too long, because Doggie said he would be back around the 25th of May.

But anyway, my opinion is that you could get an unban in like a month or so. Just an opinion, because Im not the manager here.

Well, I think I should also take part in the discussion.

Ive seen Waah ingame already. Firstly, I thought he was using wh, but I came to the end that he wasnt using any hacks(, but maybe just that time?) He wont be the first good/.. player who suddenly starts cheating.. I knew enough..

I have to support Gloriosnor, because I dont think he is banning players just for fun or without any good reason.

TO Waah:
Firstly, I dont think Gloriousnor should have been sure about having the demo, its exact name and its exact location on the pc before banning any player permanent. The records Ive done in my "career" as an admin would be at least around 15gb. And actually I need this space for other things. So, if Gloriousnor kept all these records, it - of course - can happen that its complicated to find several records. Or ever heard of pc errors? Maybe cs didnt save the record, wouldnt be the first time in my life.. There are bugs/... -> Enough ways of having trouble with the pc (also without noticing the fault).
Secondly, I think the admins at this server know that there are players playing with sound. I also think that admins never watch players without sound.. And believe me, we only decide with considering sound and other factors if we ban players or not.

TO Eli:
I would say, against Waah's opinion, that your "poor" was wrong in this discussion, anyhow.


In my opinion it is his decision if he wants to have a discussion about it and I understand his refusal about it. At least its Doggies decision about the question what will happen to Waah, so please just relax and wait for the result. =)


best regards,

Flubbel

Well, Flubbel; You and a few others state that you "have to support" Flubbel..despite you're saying you came to the conclusion that I didn't use hacks, right? I don't think you would've been punished for being neutral in this case, Flubb.

I don't doubt he's a good admin, but one can't always be right.

You might be right about the demo's etc., but as you record the demo you COULD ( just saying ) name it "Waah cheat" or something like that. Would be easier to find . A perm ban is harsh ( imo ) without evidence.

Of course I want to discuss this, a bunch of admins support the accusasion against me.. it'd be in everyones nature to defend themselves.

Anyway, seeing I just dig my hole deeper by commenting further, I'll leave it at this. Looking forward to the decision.

Waah. When you find a player cheating, you don't record double check you got the movie rename the movie and then ban for 10 day's, when you find a cheater you just record alittle and go for perm ban to remove them! So you don't make any sense, cuz on the time he is half done, the cheater leaves the game. But be patient, don't spam more in this thread, wait for doggie! We can't do more than to have said this. Doggie has to make his answear when he come!

I trust glorious to 100% so if he said you were cheating I believe him. It's a bit unlucky that he can't find the demo but we'll see.

Good luck with your searching glorious!

Waah wrote:Whatever happened to "innocent till proven guilty" ?

That rules is not always applicable to gaming communities where we are forced to, in the best interest of the majority of our userbase, maintain the servers and players to the best of our abilities. Let's rest the case there, treat this thread as a unban request and get you unbanned within a week or two, shall we?

Rest assured, though, that if we do find you hacking (again?) your punishment will be much more severe.

PM me your SteamID and I'll see what I can do during next week.